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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Ysopet on Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:23 pm

That was bugging me too, but I kept forgetting to mention it to Ryona. Thanks for bringing it up, Kalon Wink

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Blackrock on Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:50 pm

I'm still working on my post; progress is slow - I'm not happy with what I come up with and end up scratching some stuff. Still, I'm getting there...rather slowly...but it will come soon.

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Gadreille on Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:00 pm

I'm going to just wait for you to finish, since I have been too busy to even think about what to write. Whenever your post is up, I will try to have mine follow within a week.

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Silvan Arrow on Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:33 pm

I'm still alive, just in case anyone was wondering. I'll wait until Blackrock and Ryona post so I can have some context in which to introduce Elendyne.

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Blackrock on Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:56 pm

And posted. I'm not really sure what to make of my post....it's rather iffy. I was wondering if I should describe the way of life of the Eotheod or flesh out my character further. In the end, I decided to go with the latter and ended up going in-depth with the character. Hopefully his jumbled musings make some sense and I didn't take too much liberty with Ryona's characters. (I class Leohelm as such a character)

Also I can't guarantee it's typo-proof, it's getting a bit late and something may have slipped my mind. I'll review it once more tomorrow.

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Kalon Ordona II on Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:02 pm

Typos, you say? Very Happy Maybe I can save you some trouble while I'm reading it anyway.

*reads in proofreading mode*
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¶1 ~ There had yet to come a day so poor, as to force him to remain at his home. [Doesn't need the comma.]

¶3 ~ Many houses and holds now dotted the landscape, lands which had once been barren and devoid of inhabitants were now brimming with activity. [Perhaps instead: (the landscape. Lands which)]

¶4 ~ Eastwards his then turned, to the Greylin, which was the lifeblood of the surrounding lands. [Perhaps instead: either (Eastwards he then turned,) or (Eastwards his eyes then turned,)]

¶5 ~ "We are ready, father" [Needs a period.]

¶6 ~ The boy had seen fifteen winters and was shaping up as a strong, young man. ["young man" seems as if it ought to be treated together as a noun rather than using "young" as a second adjective. This is supported by connotation; I don't think any young man would aspire to or "shape up" to be a "young" man even if he was also "strong," but a "strong" "young man" I think he would. If that's the case, then the comma wouldn't be needed.]

¶8 ~ It was already something which came naturally to him, as if he put on a shoe; just as it had to be. [The phrase following the semicolon is not a complete clause. A dash might be better here.]

~ Soon, the four of them—father, son and the two horses, found themselves on the dirt road leading away from their homestead. [There should be a second dash after (two horses) instead of a comma.]

¶'s 11-14, 16, 22 ~ [All have –'s that aren't needed. Commas and periods work.]

¶11 ~ ...as he aligned himself next to Helmgar [Needs ending period.]

¶12 ~ [Perhaps instead: (examine it more closely." He then added after a pause, "Always be mindful)]

¶13 ~ [Should be: ("Yes, father," the boy nodded at once, "Are we going)]

¶14 ~ [Should be: ("Hmmmm." Helmgar coughed, as he wondered, "I had not thought)]

¶16 ~ [Should be: (such is life..." Helmgar sighed heavily. "It knocks you down)]

¶17 ~ Léohelm's fate hung heavily on Helmgar's shoulders and the memory of it soured his mood, he grew distant and quiet. [Run-on sentence and comma splice. The three clauses need to be separated. Perhaps: a comma before (and the memory) and a semicolon instead of a comma at (soured his mood, he grew distant)]

~ Such was their vocation, he knew that; warriors accepted the risk of death and maiming, it was a part of their life. [Perhaps instead: (he knew that. Warriors) and (maiming; it)]

¶18 ~ [Perhaps: (completely selfless. A part); (another reason: Helmgar's freedom); (second born; Éohelm's horn had been given to him. It was meant to for him to do great deeds in his life, to make his name immortal in the songs of his people.); (family—a wife, sons and a daughter... And yet, Léofric was almost a man grown; he could)]

¶19 ~ ...toyed with the idea of travelling. [misspelling; should be (traveling)]

~ South perhaps, to the lands... [Perhaps: (South, perhaps, to the lands)]

~ It made no matter where, he could not bear to remain here. [Perhaps a semicolon instead of a comma?]

¶20 ~ The wisdom of Aethelred has passed onto Léohelm, he was calm and reasonable like their father; but a different kind of blood flowed in Helmgar. [Personal stylistic preference: (Léohelm; he was calm like their father. But a different)]

¶23 ~ [Needs a comma: (visit some relatives, and now)]


Ack, gotta stop. Your post is too huge! Awesome, but very large; it has beaten me. xD I'd be totally fine with going through the rest of it for you, but I'm betting it'll all be similar stuff anyway.

*goes back to just plain reading*
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¶...lost count ~ ...was not certain if he did so know, not completely [should (know) be (now)?]

[also, close by, there was a 'gouge' instead of 'gauge']

*done*

Good post! Lengthy and deep, in true Blackrock style! Thumbs Up
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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Gadreille on Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:08 pm

I posted...I didn't know where to start, so I started with a flashback. Hopefully you guys think its relevant and, um, good. haha.

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Silvan Arrow on Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:03 pm

I really liked it, Ryona! I love all the posts so far. I'll start work on one tomorrow, but I humbly ask that you give me some time so that it will up to par with the rest of the other intro posts. My spring break is next week, so I'll have more time to write then. I should definitely get my first post up before the weekend, though.

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Gadreille on Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:05 pm

This is a no rush role play Smile And glad you liked it.

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Blackrock on Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:07 am

Nice post, Ryona!

And Kalon: THANKS for all those mistakes you brought to light. Doubt I would have paid attention to them even if I tried! The thing with the dashes, I use them to denote direct speech. I've been studying English for a lot of years now and only *today* did I look that thing up and it turns out commas are used instead. This is a mistake for which I blame my own native language, where we use dashes. I'll keep this in mind, in the future.

As for travelling, it's only with one "l" in American English, I use British English, where the "l" doubles. Smile

At anyyy rate, looking forward to what SilvanArrow will bring to the table!


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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Ysopet on Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:11 pm

Those were both great posts, Ryona and Blackrock Smile I love that the feel of them was different from my own. It seemed to emphasize the differences between the two cultures, and I would say that each of the cultures is the natural fit for each of the players! I can't wait to see what Silvan comes up with next Wink

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Silvan Arrow on Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:00 pm

Oh gosh, no pressure, right? Wink Well, I first need to finish grading my students' research proposals, but I'm currently brainstorming ideas as we speak. I'm still a little fuzzy on how I can "gracefully" introduce Elendyne to the Greybarrow area and make contact with Ryona and/or Blackrock's characters in a way that doesn't feel "forced," so to speak, so if any of you have any input or epiphanies, I would certainly like to hear them.

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Gadreille on Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:31 pm

Why don't you make your first post just going to Greybarrow, travelling through the dangers of Mirkwood? There are a plethora of monsters you can run into along the way, if you want to spice up your post. This will give Blackrock and I time to flesh out Greybarrow and give you a bit more info to work with when you arrive.

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Silvan Arrow on Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:39 pm

That sounds like a good idea, Ryona. I'll run with that for now and start working on it soon. I teach for six hours tomorrow, so I'll try to have it up by Thursday or Friday.

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Silvan Arrow on Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:44 am

Working on my post today. I had a bit of writer's block these past couple of days, but I think it's flowing better now. It should be up later this afternoon.

EDIT: FINALLY posted! I decided to play around with some elvish phrases from this website.. Anyone who is well-versed in Tolkien's languages, please feel free to critique or just tell me to ditch the elvish if necessary. Hope you all enjoy!

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Gadreille on Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:35 pm

Well done! So glad you used spiders Smile

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Kalon Ordona II on Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:07 pm

Would the spiders instead be spawn of Ungoliant, and not Shelob? I'm not positively certain, of course, but it seems like a more likely thing for him to say, unless Shelob really did spawn the Mirkwood spiders. I forget exactly.

Also, there was one paragraph where you had Findor instead of Finrod. (Findor's a pretty cool name, too, though, come to think of it. xD)

For the thank you, I remember "hannon le" from the movies, but Sindarin grammar tens to have a loose word order, so I think 'le hannon' would work just as well. 'I thank you' vs. 'you, I thank,' I'm assuming, since 'le' is 'you.'
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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Silvan Arrow on Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:05 am

Thanks for the save on Finrod's name, Kalon. I think my fingers got dyslexic while I was typing and I started using the two names interchangeably. I thought I'd caught all of them when I proofread the post, but it just goes to show you how helpful a fresh set of eyes can be.

Regarding the spiders, the first website I checked said Shelob spawned the Mirkwood spiders, but I just googled Ungoliant (Sorry, I'm not well-versed in Tolkien's monster lore), and apparently she gave birth to Shelob, so it could go either way. And since I don't know if Shelob was born before or after our story's timeline, I'll go ahead and make that edit as well.

I also remember "Hannon le" from the movies, but I also saw it as "Le hannon" on that link I shared above. Like you said, it could probably go either way. Thanks for all the input!

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Kalon Ordona II on Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:50 am

No problem. Sindarin is fun. ^_^

So... who posts next? Silvone?
I'm not necessarily prodding. Just curious. ^_^

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Blackrock on Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:36 am

Nice post Silvan, I'm glad that everyone enjoys it....but there's something I don't quite understand. Now, I hate being the bearer of bad news, but I think you may have some geographical issues in the post.

"They had emerged on the western border of Mirkwood, just south of the Gladden Fields. "

Here I got really confused, as to why the elves would make such a perilous journey, bringing them so close to Dol Guldur. I had to re-read the post to make sure I didn't miss anything, however when I read on:

"As for Elendyne, she turned Nessa’s head toward the west and set off at an easy canter. Once they reached the Anduin River, they would follow it south past the woods of Lorien before turning southwest to the plains where the horsemen dwelt."

My question is: why are you going south? That way lies the province of Calenardhon (the future Rohan), where you are more likely to find Kalon's and Silvone's characters, rather than mine and Ryona's. I think you mixed up the places. To illustrate, I made some very rough sketches on the map linked in the first post, showing where you are and where you should be. As well as a suggested route. (in retrospect, I could have done this, and intended to, when you asked about tips, but real-life prevented me) The images are too big to fit here, so I'll just provide links.

First off, the lands of the horsemen are way up north, between the Langwell and Greylin rivers. Greybarrow itself, marked by a red "X" on the map, is located on the western shore of the eastern leg of the Greylin river. Here's the map: click

At the end of your post, you are just south of the Gladden Fields, which would be somewhere around here. And your intended route looks to me like this. Judging by the parts I quoted.

Now, you have two choices here. One is to simply amend the directions and say that you are going north, that should spare you any further trouble. However, I still remain by my statement that travelling this close to Dol Guldur doesn't really make much sense, especially when you have a better alternative. A quick glance at the map will reveal that the Forest River passes through the Wood Elves' realm. Merely following it upstream should bring you quite close to Greybarrow. This is a quick example of the route I suggest.

Sorry for taking your post apart like that, just thought it's better to clear up any would-be mistakes now, rather than realise you've been going the wrong way all that time! I blame the map we have for this confusion, but to my knowledge there isn't one where we can see how Middle-Earth looked during our time period.

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Gadreille on Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:00 pm

Thanks for explaining that. I do wish we had a more accurate map Sad

I remember noticing something wasn't right but then I had to go to a birthday luncheon and completely lost that thought.

As for who posts next...I guess Silvone? Are we all in favor of staying in order?

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Silvan Arrow on Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:47 pm

Hey, Blackrock, so sorry for not responding sooner, but I've been laid up with a cold since Sunday. Thanks for being so quick to catch those mistakes. That's what I get for using my movie poster of Middle Earth as a reference, I suppose... I'll try to make the edits tomorrow before my mom comes into town.

Ryona, I'm fine with staying in order for now. If the RP takes a turn for where people need to post in different orders, that's totally fine too.

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Gadreille on Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:42 pm

It really shouldn't be too hard to fix, just a couple of direction adjustments and placement changes. It's an understandable error, I feel like a dolt everytime I say "Greybarrow is located on the western shore of the eastern leg of the Greylin river" yadayada...I get confused reading it myself haha!

Also, Silvone's only day off of work is TOMORROW so maybe if we're lucky he will reward us with a post?

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Silvan Arrow on Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:12 am

Okay, I edited my post according to the route Blackrock suggested. That actually makes a lot more sense for them to follow the Forest river than the crazy route I originally used. Thanks a lot! Can't wait to see what Silvone brings to the table next!

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Ysopet on Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:54 am

I will be working on this post today, but I can't promise it will be up today or tomorrow. I would like to take my time with this role-play to put out quality posts, so I am sorry if that bugs anyone.

P.S. Great posts so far, everyone!

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Silvan Arrow on Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:21 pm

No worries, Silvone. Take as much time as you need. This slower pace of posting actually works a lot better for me, given that life will soon get much crazier after spring break. I would rather take more time and put out quality posts than rush through something half-heartedly.

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Kalon Ordona II on Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:57 pm

Do you pronounce Elendyne kinda like simbelmyne?
In the movies: "SIM-bel-moon-uh" with, I would guess, the 'oo' sound framed like an 'e' but with rounded lips like a 'u.'
Hence: "ELL-en-doon-uh"?

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Gadreille on Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:41 pm

Ooh, that is pretty. I was pronouncing it Elend-ing. I wonder what it really is.

Aethylwyn is pronounced Ay-thell-win, in my mind anyway.

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Silvan Arrow on Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:44 pm

I've always pronounced it where the primary accent is on the first syllable (El- pronounced like the letter L) and the third syllable (-dyne) is pronounced like "Dean." I hope that makes sense? So I guess the respelling would be ELL-in-deen?

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Re: The Battle of Celebrant OOC

Post by Ysopet on Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:20 am

I am about 2/3 of the way through my post. Should be up tomorrow or the next day, depending on how much time Theoden gives me to write.

Kalon, I hope you don't mind, but I have solved the puzzle of the missing helmet. If you already had ideas for that, I will erase what I put in. I just wanted to add a bit of humor. You will see when I post it up, if you don't mind that I did it.

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